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Location: Lake Oconee, Georgia | Has anyone other than me (and Rocky) had this?
A patient's family is in distributing and brought me a bottle of this a couple days ago. I had no idea they hated me so much.
OMG, I've never had a worse taste in my mouth. So acidic and sour, I swallowed half a sip and spit the rest out, coughing and gaggin. One liter drain pour.
It's been 20 minutes and I swear to you my throat feels raw.
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Location: CT | dr.bassett - 2009-09-18 5:02 PM
Has anyone other than me (and Rocky) had this?
A patient's family is in distributing and brought me a bottle of this a couple days ago. I had no idea they hated me so much.
OMG, I've never had a worse taste in my mouth. So acidic and sour, I swallowed half a sip and spit the rest out, coughing and gaggin. One liter drain pour.
It's been 20 minutes and I swear to you my throat feels raw.
[:pukeb]
You're crazy. Beautiful stuff. Had the pleasure of having a 6 year old bottle while in Colorado, and it could easily rival the best of Belgium. |
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Location: Lake Oconee, Georgia | Magic_Hat - 2009-09-18 5:58 PM
You're crazy. Beautiful stuff. Had the pleasure of having a 6 year old bottle while in Colorado, and it could easily rival the best of Belgium.
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Location: CT | dr.bassett - 2009-09-18 6:27 PM
Magic_Hat - 2009-09-18 5:58 PM
You're crazy. Beautiful stuff. Had the pleasure of having a 6 year old bottle while in Colorado, and it could easily rival the best of Belgium.
No, YOU'RE crazy. [:lol]
Have you had other Flemish Sours or lambics and such? La Folie is easily up there with them, and isn't even as enamel strippingly sour as a lot of the Cantillon and Hanssens. I will say, however, that fresh La Folie is a little too vinegary for me, but the older bottles I've had have been phenomenal top tier beers. |
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Location: S.E. Michigan | You just didn't know to cellar it for 6 years eh?  Ok, smart ass stuff aside, I'd try it once if I see it around. Probably just once but I'm game for some high quality punishment  |
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Location: CT | Just noticed this is La Folie BROWN Ale.
Uhm, what the hell is that? Someone want to enlighten me? I was talking about New Belgium La Folie... I didn't know there was a "brown" version? No info on New Belgium's website. |
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Location: Marietta, Ga | Magic_Hat - 2009-09-18 8:56 PM
dr.bassett - 2009-09-18 6:27 PM
Magic_Hat - 2009-09-18 5:58 PM
You're crazy. Beautiful stuff. Had the pleasure of having a 6 year old bottle while in Colorado, and it could easily rival the best of Belgium.
No, YOU'RE crazy. [:lol]
Have you had other Flemish Sours or lambics and such? La Folie is easily up there with them, and isn't even as enamel strippingly sour as a lot of the Cantillon and Hanssens. I will say, however, that fresh La Folie is a little too vinegary for me, but the older bottles I've had have been phenomenal top tier beers.
Cantillon and Hanssens! How my heart goes pitter-patter at even the thought! I will certainly be on the lookout today for the La Folie. |
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Location: Where the hell am I?, NE | Magic_Hat - 2009-09-19 1:00 AM
Just noticed this is La Folie BROWN Ale.
Uhm, what the hell is that? Someone want to enlighten me? I was talking about New Belgium La Folie... I didn't know there was a "brown" version? No info on New Belgium's website.
It's mostly the same beer. The new 22oz bottles have sour brown on the label, and the new version, from I've heard is supposed to be filtered ans pasteurized. So I'm guessing they may not hold up to the 6 years that you were talking about. |
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Location: CT | RedHaze - 2009-09-19 12:52 PM
Magic_Hat - 2009-09-19 1:00 AM
Just noticed this is La Folie BROWN Ale.
Uhm, what the hell is that? Someone want to enlighten me? I was talking about New Belgium La Folie... I didn't know there was a "brown" version? No info on New Belgium's website.
It's mostly the same beer. The new 22oz bottles have sour brown on the label, and the new version, from I've heard is supposed to be filtered ans pasteurized. So I'm guessing they may not hold up to the 6 years that you were talking about.
Why the hell are they filtering/pasteurizing these? Any reason for the change? The old bottles weren't force carbed, were they? Changing them to bombers is strange... probably a lot less labor intensive, but the 750ml format can demand more $$ than a bomber. I'll have to keep an eye out for the bombers and give it a try. |
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Location: Where the hell am I?, NE | The bombers are only about $2 cheaper than the 750's are/were, and no, the old bottles were not force carbonated. From speaking to the NE rep, the reason they went to the filtered/pasteurized bombers, was for consistencies sake. They thought they could eliminate some of the few, but persistent issues they thought they had with maintaining a consistent flavor profile. I thought that was one of things that made the beer so great (plus I would have thought the blending they did helped with this anyway?). The slight variations from batch to batch, and the fact that the unfiltered versions aged so well, kept me coming back for more despite the price of the bottles. Now though, I'm a bit more leery of spending $15 for a Flanders red that may have lost a lot of the character that I find so enjoyable in the style.
I'll let you know when we get the bombesr so I can send you a bottle.
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Location: CT | RedHaze - 2009-09-19 10:28 PM
The bombers are only about $2 cheaper than the 750's are/were, and no, the old bottles were not force carbonated. From speaking to the NE rep, the reason they went to the filtered/pasteurized bombers, was for consistencies sake. They thought they could eliminate some of the few, but persistent issues they thought they had with maintaining a consistent flavor profile. I thought that was one of things that made the beer so great (plus I would have thought the blending they did helped with this anyway?). The slight variations from batch to batch, and the fact that the unfiltered versions aged so well, kept me coming back for more despite the price of the bottles. Now though, I'm a bit more leery of spending $15 for a Flanders red that may have lost a lot of the character that I find so enjoyable in the style.
I'll let you know when we get the bombesr so I can send you a bottle.
Thanks for the info. Very interesting development. I guess I'm all for consistency, but have they really had so many problems that it warranted such a drastic change? I've certainly never had a bad bottle, and any complaint I've heard has been in the "it doesn't suit my tastes" vain in contrast to a beer gone bad. Filter and pastuerization are good... for some styles. For La Folie though? Dunno, seems like that will take the life out of it. I guess I'll have to try it before i naysay it completely... but it seems like a dumb move. Are any other flemish reds filtered and/or pastuerized? Duchesse or Rodenbach maybe? |
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Location: Kennesaw, GA | Rodenbach is available locally, I recall, so if I see a bottle I'll grab it and give it a try and let you know. I've only had the Grand Cru, and it was over a decade ago, so I can't comment. |
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Location: Where the hell am I?, NE | Found this little reply from another site from Eric Salazar (one of the brewers). Doesn't say anything about filtering, so what I heard about that could be incorrect, but they are apparently pasteurizing.
Today, Eric Salazar wrote back:
"The capped La Folie is pasteurized then we add yeast and sugar at packaging time for bottle conditioning. This allows us some predictability and a more stable beer for the long term."
http://www.babblebelt.com/bbb_classic/readpost.html?id=1245801587. |
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Location: Marietta, Ga | Steve - 2009-09-20 8:02 AM
Rodenbach is available locally, I recall, so if I see a bottle I'll grab it and give it a try and let you know. I've only had the Grand Cru, and it was over a decade ago, so I can't comment.
Both Duchess and Rodenbach are excellent, and the Grand Cru is probably my favorite overall Flemish Sour Red. I have never been able to get ahold of a bottle of Redbach though.... |
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Location: CT | Rafe - 2009-09-20 6:01 PM
Steve - 2009-09-20 8:02 AM
Rodenbach is available locally, I recall, so if I see a bottle I'll grab it and give it a try and let you know. I've only had the Grand Cru, and it was over a decade ago, so I can't comment.
Both Duchess and Rodenbach are excellent, and the Grand Cru is probably my favorite overall Flemish Sour Red. I have never been able to get ahold of a bottle of Redbach though....
If Rodenbach Grand Cru is your favorite Flemish Red, La Folie will blow your mind... as long as the new format hasn't changed it. |
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